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A Profession Marked by Decency and RespectRon Vale, UCSFWe all work very hard in biological research, whether we are students or senior scientists. We are motivated by making discoveries, which can be as addictive as love. However, just like love, it is painful to be rejected. But in our profession, which operates largely as self-run meritocracy, not everyone can be given the stamp of approval and supported all of the time. Frustration, and sometimes anger, is a natural reaction. But the worst outcome is if we let frustration get the better of us and we start to treat our colleagues poorly and with less respect and courtesy than they deserve. If we want to start to make our profession more tolerable and enjoyable, we need not look any farther than our backyard. We need to improve the way that we are viewing and treating our colleagues. Let me start with an example of reviewing papers, which is assigned to principal investigators but frequently farmed out in practice to students and postdocs. There is a journal hierarchy and we are asked to comment on whether the paper is good enough, if it has high enough impact. Behind the cloak of anonymity, reviewers often write the most discouraging and disparaging remarks about the importance and quality of the work, perhaps because they want to make doubly sure that the paper gets rejected. In 5 min of their time, a reviewer can completely trash the work that a student or postdoc who had labored over the work for 5 years. Although it never ceases to hurt, many senior PIs have a tough enough skin to withstand such an assault on their work. However, for a young person, such a review can be devastating and calls into question their ability as a scientist and even whether they should continue in a profession populated with such kind of hostile people. I think that reviewers internally justify this type of behavior by “well, this happened to me with the last two papers that I submitted to Nature”. Gandhi had a quote for this type of behavior, and I need not write it here since all of you know what it is. And then there is verbal rancor. “I know who trashed my grant and he/she is a terrible person.” “The editor at Nature is an idiot”. This is dangerous, because such assumptions are very frequently wrong and you are likely pointing a loose canon in the wrong direction. Most importantly, you do not need to take someone else down in order to raise yourself higher. Most often, it backfires and does not project yourself in a good light. While rejection is part of our business, I want to inject a word of optimism and perspective for young people. While a paper or a grant might be rejected, things even out over time if you stick with it, pick yourself and try again. If your paper from your Ph.D. thesis is rejected from a journal, your sphere of experience at that instant in time is 100% failure, which is disheartening. However, my papers get rejected too! And I feel bad too (and also for the student or postdoc in lab)! The difference is that, being an old fart, I have had more life experience to know that rejected papers can get accepted, that careers that seem to be going nowhere can change trajectory dramatically, and that personal unhappiness can turn into happiness. Patience, persistence, adaptability are key traits- yes, easy to write and read in a blog and but often learned the hard way in practice. It also important to remember that we are all people trying to do the best that we can. Some individuals are better scientists than others, some are better journal editors than others. This diversity can manifest itself in poor judgment calls, and this creates an imperfect system of scientific governance since it is overseen by imperfect human beings. But very, very, few people have intrinsically dishonest and evil motives. The journal editors, the scientific reviewers, the grants administrators are people like you. They have a mom and dad, they have families and try to do the best for their kids, they work hard at what they do, they savor some free time after a hard week of work to go for a bike ride or enjoy a movie. And they crave the occasional positive feedback to know that they are doing some good for their hours spent at work. They also are hurt by same demoralizing blows that affect us. In ending this blog, let me be clear- I very strongly believe that our profession is characterized by many more acts of kindness and collegiality than of hostility. But we can still seek to do better; we can improve as a profession and as individuals. Let us take control of the situation ourselves. Let us seek polite and courteous peer review. Let us not blame government, granting agencies, journals. Sure, there are problems with all of these systems and there are issues that require change. However, we must remember that we scientists largely created the systems that govern us and sometimes systems are slow to change and require patience and persistent improvement. But we can regain our own sanity immediately, be kinder to our colleagues, and help to create the type of professional environment that we all want to work in and enjoy.
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Dear Vijay Yes, it is very disheartening when one gets
Dear Vijay
Yes, it is very disheartening when one gets "unscientific comments" that are above what should be in a professional scientific review. We need to set a better tone. There is a way to be encouraging to the authors about their work (even if the paper is not recommended). That at least keeps peoples' spirits up. Hang in there through the ups and downs. See my article "Its a Wonderful Life..." in MBOC. There are many great things about our profession.
Ron
Thanks Ron, for suggesting a positive attitude to rejection
Thanks Ron, for suggesting a positive attitude to rejection of papers by reviewers on a variety, often rather trivial, counts. As authors (young or old) we need to take the positive forward action since most often, if we persist, we do get the findings published even in the same journal. I must admit that even the "worst" reviewer's comments also help in improving the manuscript by indicating possible expressions/statements in the paper that can be misunderstood.
In the context of reviewers' role, I would like to share two personal positive experiences that I had as a Ph.D. student (late 1960s) and which have had a lasting effect.
The first was with a single author manuscript that I had submitted to GENETICAL RESEARCH Cambridge. A few months after submission (remember there were no online submissions but manually typed three hard copies had to be sent through the postal services), the manuscript came back for a revision with a very unusual note from the Editor: one of the reviewer had taken pains to rewrite ("retype" in those manual typrwriter days!) the entire paper and the Editor wanted to know if I would agree with the revision! This was indeed a unique experience and taught me to be a critical but "helpful" reviewer.
The second experience was an indirect one that I got from reading of the 5th Huskins Memorial Lecture on "Dosage compensation - development of a concept and new facts" (published in Canadian Journal of Genetics and Cytology, 1960) by Curt Stern. This made a remarkable reading. Prof. Stern described at length the differences in the views of Prof. R. B. Goldschmidt and of those who were "natural selectionists", especially in relation to the phenomenon of dosage compensation in flies. Curt Stern who himself had also worked on dosage compensation in flies obtained some results which he interpreted against Goldschmidt's hypothesis. I quote from Stern's lecture "This (Stern's) theory of dosage compensation by genic balance ran counter to Goldschmidt's way of thinking with its emphasis on males and females as basically different developmental systems. I submitted the manuscript to him as the editor of Biologisches Zentrallblatt. His response, the following day, was characteristic, candid in giving his judgement, and generous in his action: "The difference between us is this. I have read your views, understand them and reject them. You read my views, did not understand them and reject them. Your paper will appear in the May issue"."
I wish we have more reviewers and Editors who are compassionate and generous in letting the authors be proven wright or wrong by posterity rather than either merely act as "post-office" or judge the manuscript to be useless for their journal and return without its having been seen by a knowldgeable expert!
I agree that we need to live with the system but at the same time we must make all efforts to make the review process more friendly and constructive.
Thanks Ron for writing this blog! We (students, post-docs
Thanks Ron for writing this blog!
We (students, post-docs and PIs too) should read this and try to take at least a part from it. Our scientific world will be a better place if we think like this.
Let's not forget that in our career we get many help form other scientists. Many times we get good criticism from our reviewers even the papers/grants not get accepted. Many times the comments are valid although we just want our work to get accepted in "Nature". We often only see the negative things/failure. We need to think beyond just getting a paper/grant accepted and be happy.
As said in this blog even our paper is not a 'cell-paper' today still we can be good scientist!
Good points Anindya. Thanks for adding these comments.
Good points Anindya. Thanks for adding these comments. Also, reviewers can and should be critical about work- my point, in part, is that reviewers can be critical but do so in a tone that is professional and refrain from being viscous and disheartening to the student/postdoc who produced the work.
Obviously from the responses. You’ve got a design here thats
Obviously from the responses. You’ve got a design here thats not too flashy, but makes a statement as big as what you’re saying. I know that everybody must say the same thing, but I just think that you put it in a way that everyone can understand.
nb: i found the article from google
Dear Dr Ron, I agree with the view addressed in the present
Dear Dr Ron,
I agree with the view addressed in the present blog. It is very close to truth what a student faces during his/her research career. On the same time, it is difficult to maintain the momentum going after bouncers from reviewers. It disheartens me, when a paper rejected from a journal, which is in fact a part of PhD thesis. It is harsher when reviewer gave some “unscientific comments”. I strongly agree with you to keep cool in such a poor situation. I feel “Research is next to Godliness”.
Regards
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